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Overcoming the Smoke and Mirrors of the Music Industry, with Txldian The Destroyer
The independent artist (aka Sham Beasy) on leaving a Sony deal to go fully independent, treating music as a business, and why “the real always rises to the top.”
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This week on the Unscripted Small Business Podcast, host Jeremy Rivera sits down with Txldian The Destroyer — also known as Sham Beasy and Frank Petrelli — an independent musician and content creator out of Central PA (717) running his own label, Hotel Forever Entertainment. It’s a candid look at music as a business: the disappointments, the “smoke and mirrors,” the decision to walk away from a Sony deal, and what it takes to do an independent rollout the right way.
From the Church Choir to the Stage
Music was always central. His mom was deep into church and gospel, and he sang in the choir from ages five to seven — a “really prolific experience” that pushed him toward sound. Raised on the Temptations, Michael Jackson, the Four Tops, Diana Ross, and Tina Turner, he started out as a Michael Jackson impersonation dancer. The way Jackson inspired him is exactly what he now wants to do for others. His first project, Night of the Living Nerd Part One, dropped April 20, 2010 — his first time recording professionally and stepping fully into his own voice.
Music Is a Business
Asked whether he’s a creative who tolerates business or a business that happens to make art, he doesn’t hedge: he’s a business. He has a newborn son, Jackson, plus other kids and step-kids, and a wedding to plan. That reality sits in tension with the artist who is “so deeply rooted in the love, hip hop and music” and would happily do it for free — but the bills are real, and so is the business.
“There’s two things that this game is made up of: disappointments and smoke and mirrors. So you have to, A, be prepared to be disappointed a lot.” — Txldian The Destroyer
From the Episode
Txldian The Destroyer: It’s not how hard you fall, but how good you get up. And that’s like the biggest thing that I could impart.
Going Fully Independent
He was signed to a Roughhouse/Sony deal for a couple of years and left it right before this album to go independent under his own LLC, Hotel Forever Entertainment. He calls this the best rollout he’s ever had — including his time signed — “the quintessential how-to-be-an-artist guide, independently.” His framing is patient: this album may simply be the step to the next one. The new record, Shan, is built on real loss — over six years he got divorced, weathered serious betrayal, and lost both parents. He points listeners to “Letter to Mama” as the song that explains who he really is.
AI, Authenticity, and “The Real Rises to the Top”
He’s pro-AI for the visual and graphics side of building a brand, but skeptical of tools like Suno for the music itself, calling AI audio “nowhere near real artistry.” His north star is craftsmanship over volume — one good rhyme a week beats one mediocre rhyme a day — and a belief that authenticity wins out: “the real will always rise to the top. Cream always rises to the top.”
“A lot of people are worried about what’s coming and what’s on the other side of the door, but I don’t worry about knocking — because nine times out of ten I’m the one who knocks.” — Txldian The Destroyer
The Pro Wrestler Who Wants the Mic
He almost forgot to mention it: he’s also a pro wrestler. A lifelong fan of 32 years, he started wrestling last August with Valor Pro Wrestling and has done backstage commentary. His dream is a managerial role — on the mic, where he says he does his best work: “Talking is what I do best.”
“We publish our prices publicly. The industry told us we were insane. We did it anyway. It built more trust than any brochure we ever made.” — Bill Kasko on doing the opposite of your industry and being findable everywhere.
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Connect with Txldian The Destroyer
Txldian The Destroyer builds his multi-genre brand under Hotel Forever Entertainment. His album Shan is out worldwide on all platforms, with an all-R&B project, Still Raining, on the way. Search “Txldian The Destroyer” on your platform of choice.
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